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[pez]

I'm bored. Please spam me with things.

Or, ask me a question. About anything at all. I'll give you an answer (though not necessary the truth).

Comments

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

I'd be able to tell you if I have my uni notes on hand. XD; should be doable with joists and cross-bracing... try image-googling "floor joists" for some diagrams?

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

XDDDDDDDDD I tried, but the thing is, it's apparently not possible to do it with just cross bracing and joists, cos it won't hold the thing together (apparently the max is a 4.5m span? unless I'm interpreting them wrong) - I need to either put in a beam or a post to support it, but google is TEH CRAP and nothing is coming up that is useful because I need the construction diagrams for me to copy refer to. ._.

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

XD This probably means you'll need to pay the library a visit!

Or ask your seniors to see if you can copy their old work. XD

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

But the library is 20 minutes away and there are gale force winds and it's pissing it down in nottingham. TT________TT And there's not even an architecture section in it! *cries*

They never had to do this project - it's a different one every year apparently.

Watch me cry in a corner and have a mental breakdown

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

Mmmm, you probably still have to go anyway. But before you do, if Nottingham has an online library catalogue it's worth looking there first. Civ Eng might have some good books on timber construction.

And, even if the project is different, the basis should be the same (the project should still be testing if you've learned certain elements), so it's still good for reference.

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I fear I will have to... my construction text books suck. TT______TT It's all about new build and nothing about construction. ._. Wrrrrrrrrrrrry do I have to do this if it's Civ Engineering? DDDDDDDD: Sucks that I'm ill as hell as well. xD; Will go check out the online catalogue. :o Or I might just e-mail the lecturer and bombard him with questions. xD;

Mmm, I guess so, but most people are not stupid enough to make things more difficult for themselves. Maybe I should change my mezz floor design so I only have to span that goddamned 4.5m width instead of the 8m length. >.> Will knock on my next door neighbour's door. XDDD

[xiu]

I would help you, but unfortunately I don't work from the actually building things perspective rather than the architectural side of it. That, and I'm pretty sure I've only ever done ceilings (thus, 6x12 beams in the center and things working off that asdflj I hate those things they're heavy T_T)

[xiu]

...that makes no sense. I work from the building instead of architectural XD I switched my sentences around :(

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

XDDd I'm pretty incoherent myself right now - trying to do all this technical stuff with a nasty cold is not nice. D: And hmm, well, the building itself exists, but I think ceilings don't necessarily have to be load bearing (unless there's a floor ontop or its a loft conversion which is what mine is) so it's not as important to stick to the building regulations and things. D: If I want to span my length of 8m I have to get joists specially made, and they will be massive, which is highly impractical and expensive for a barn conversion of a 4.5x8m space. XD;

[xiu]

When we did the garage we had to redo the ceiling (partially because it was open) so we could use loft space, but whoever built the thing did it totally wrong (the building is 20ftx20ft, whoever built it did the roof with a 20ft 6x8 beam one way and a bunch of 20ft 2x4's the other way... kind of surprised it actually held up - when we put the new beam in we had to jack up the ceiling joists 8 inches because they were sagging so much >_> In general we'd put in a beam and work half length, I think, but we also added in two walls that help support it so er. (The loft has about 2,000 books in it right now so uh 8D)

Depending on how long you'll be around I can call my dad and ask at lunch :o he's the one who knows this shizzo XD

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

o_O Gosh, that is some ceiling yes. And XDDD 2000 books ftw. And yeah, mine is basically a mezzanine level for a roof conversion with stairs going up to it - it only needs to be load bearing enough for 1 person, since it's a bedroom/work space up there which only has a bed, a chest of drawers and a load desk. Possibly a lamp too, but yeah. xD I'm not altogether sure how to do the floor, since convention joisting won't span the 8m, even if we do it your way (according to the British standards).

Oh, I'll be working through the night. xDDD Not gonna get this whole project finished by Monday unless I don't sleep this weekend. >.> And omg, you would be my saviour. D: But I don't really want to bother you or your dad. ;o;

[xiu]

Yeah, that's what I'm a little "..." about, because building standards in California aren't even the same as in like, Virginia. For instance, it's practically illegal to have a basement in California because we get so many earthquakes/floods.

But even so, a basic gist in CA's standards might be enough to help you figure something out ♥ He won't be on lunch for another 3 hours or so, so uh XD; No prob, he actually kind of likes when I ask stuff like this >>

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

Yeah building regulations are so varied that it's a bit @_@ sometimes when I'm looking up books and they're American and not British. ._.;;

:D Thank you so much! ♥ You rock. ;o; Oh, It's only 5pm here, so I'll definitely still be around then. XD

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

btw, do you have to design the British Standards?

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

Yes, aside from the fact that we are allowed to insulate externally and render the exterior. The stairs we can pretty much say it's for a 1 person residence etc, so they don't have to be the normal domestic ones, and can be 600 across and as steep as one of those ladder stairs, but aside from that, as to insulation and also the loads of floors and things, yes, we do have to design to British Standards. :/

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

Well, I suppose first thing is, do you know which BS you need and do you have them?

[lina-lau.livejournal.com]

Errr.. no and no. 8D But the lecturer has the relevant regulations online in his notes for stairs etc so I can check those. :o Insulation I'm not so worried about, it's mainly the second floor that's pissing me off, cos without having worked out its construction I can't draw up any of my plans and things yet, or design the stairs properly cos I need to know how thick the joists are going to be. :/