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Aug. 11th, 2005 11:41 am
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I'm not much of a fan of fandom_wank, but I do go there when people tell me there are interesting posts or if a certain person (who seems to have now disappeared) is mentioned.

And this link I just nabbed from my friends list.

Pay me or don't ever ask me about my WiPs. Who cares if it's fanfiction, I shall make a profit from it anyway (in the disguise of "people are supporting my living, not paying for my fanfics), who cares about the legal issues. And how about writers who stay up late at night and early in the morning to try to make their publishing dreams come true? They're just idiots.

[edit] SO CUTE *wants to make icons out of them...*

[edti2] and this is cute, too!

Re: the lone dissenting voice

Date: 2005-08-11 11:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure she meant no harm, but it is a stupid idea, period.

This comic writer... it sounds like the fans collected for him, instead of him asking for money. And what he'd produce is original work...

But apparently the fic the woman mentioned she's going to finish, if given money, is a collaborative work and she didn't mention it to the other authors.

Also, there are many many people who're trying to write. Every one of them wants to have the time for it, not having to worry about paying bills and such... well, Zadie Smith wrote "White Teeth" whilst she was in university. Stephen King's debut "Carrie" was written whilst he had 2 jobs and living in a trailer van with his wife. JK Rowling wrote HP because she had to find a way to support her childen as a single mum. The way this woman spoke is as if she wants an easy way out. But sadly, reality doesn't work like that.

Like you said, it's a stupid idea and it shouldn't have been posted.

Date: 2005-08-11 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chinawolf.livejournal.com
I agree that many people wrote stuff by juggling other jobs etc, and still wrote good books. But there're also the lucky cases like Susanna Clarke, who got a gigantic advance for her novel even though she had never published before. So just because most authors can hardly make a living by writing, that doesn't mean all may not, just because most have their first novel rejected thirty times, doesn't mean your novel is bad if the first publisher you show it to takes it. I buy doujinshi which pay the author for their work. I would buy commissions by my favourite artists to draw my most beloved scenes from Harry Potter if I had the money.

Evindentally, no one loves her fic so much (speaking hypothetically, I didn't know it involved co-authorship) they would pay a few bucks for it. That means she isn't good enough, and that seems to me the strongest argument of why her scheme cannot work.

Again - I can't help thinking that I would gladly pay 20 dollars for a summary of the rest of Mirror of Maybe, or even a few dollars per finsihed chapter, and am sure a couple of my friends would, too. Whatever - it's clear that she is not really a smart light, so I certainly will not defend her any longer when I can't be sure her intentions were honest.

As for the comic writer - nope, he had the idea, posted it on his blog, gave regular updates of how much money had been collected, and when the target sum was reached, handed in his resignation.

Date: 2005-08-11 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
It depends on the original author's standing on it too, I suppose. Japanese publishers consider doujinshi a form of free promotion. On top of that, the majority people who draw doujinshi don't really make real money from it, they only make enough to cover the material and printing cost, not to support their living. But the person in that post wants to be supported.

From her posts afterwards it seems like some people have paid (she mentioned paying them back). So let's just assume she's a good author ^^ I don't want to sound like I'm totally trashing her without knowing who she is. I just don't think it's a smart idea, that's all. Even if she's very good, she ignored the other authors and the legal issues and that's just... *sigh*

*meep @ comic writer* Ah well. ^^" at least he did completely original work, I hope.

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