Did I just do that?

[pez]

Oh, I appear to have signed up to a writing thing. Not due for five months, though. Gives me plenty of time to write, rewrite and rerewrite.

[deleted paragraph] Since the comments are pretty interesting I'm going to unlock this entry and I don't want what was here to be public. XD

[edit] Massive huge spoilers for TLR in the comments, don't read if you don't want to be spoiled. (I guess that's just vanillafire on my friends list right now. XD)

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[storme]

Yeah, that sounds about right. A decaying empire, with power being leeched away by the Congress-as-ruled-by-Hermeien.

Man, I've depressed myself there. Poor Dave, sadly watching the Valeria Heart flickering.

Hmm, true. I wonder how strong you'd have to be to bind The Conqueror. Or Rush. Or the Seven. The idea of the GE granting them enough power to bind it is interesting--I could see the GE claiming that as why he has to approve the distribution of Remnants.

And then maybe a consequence of being a traitor is the possibility that the GE might *remove* that power needed to keep a Remnant bound?

I'm feeling guilty we didn't have this conversation on balterossa, actually. All this discussion and no yaoi, even. :P

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

Dave, once again, is so perfect for angst. ;;

I've been wondering about that. And what power would they give? Would binding Rush mean being able to summon something else, like how you can summon the Gae Bolg and Cyclops? XDDD And anyway, what would one have to sacrifice in order to bind Rush?

But then if the GE could do that, the Conqueror wouldn't have had to go through all that trouble to "free all Remnants". =/ Ahhhh I dunno. Maybe he just pretends to have the power to give/take away Remnants.

*snort* There are only one or two people there who seems to like actual game discussion, and of those not all of them have finished playing!

*edits and unlocks post* Hmmm maybe I could link this to the comm... feeling a bit lazy though. XD;

[storme]

And such poetic angst, too.

Maybe Rush is himself a conjuration? Just a really durable one. Which would make him already bound.. except I can't figure out how that would work, really. Maybe he's bound to himself? And obviously, you'd have to give Rush a new wardrobe to bind him properly. :P

Mrf, yeah, okay. Maybe that doesn't work. Dammit, I thought I might have found a plausible reason for a moment there. So, back to no idea how the Emperor retains any control.

Up to you--it might make for interesting further discussion. Maybe.

(I need to post icon bases to the comm. I have like 60 I made in fits of 'oh, pretty!', and while I *could* upload 'em all to lj for my own use, I absolutely do not need quite that many TLR icons.)

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

'Mr David! What are you doing to Rush?!? That's not how you're meant to bind a Remnant!'? XDDDD

Maybe things would make more sense once I beat the Seven on PC and then have them recruited. They must have some explanation on things. Actually... *goes to check wiki* Okay, no info there. =/

Hmmmm maybe when I get home.

(What do you mean, you have no need for many TLR icons? TLR icons is not about need! It's about the pretty! *snicker*)

[storme]

*snort* See, like the bible slashfic joke, I really am not safe to be let near puns. :P

Yeah, I'm curious about the Seven. I was never entirely sure if they were supposed to be Remnants or just fanatics in the service of the Conqueror. And, likely, haven't gotten that far in the PC playthrough yet.

(I have the need for pretty TLR icons, but do I need *twenty* Dave icons? Really? And as many of Rush? I need to share the pretty out a bit.)

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

And then, of course, there's the mystery of Rush. So many ways to explain it, because they never told us what Remnants really are. Rush could be a Remnant or he could be hosting a Remnant inside him after that little accident at the Sacred Lands.

.......which reminds me - Beneath Undelwalt. It's like the Sacred Lands, but I bet not many people know it exists! Maybe that's where the GE's power comes from, if he has any?

And could it be that Rush is a conjuration of the Sacred Lands/the Remnant Elysion, and Conqueror is the conjuration of Beneath Undelwalt (so secret that it doesn't even have a name?) It does *seem* like a Remnant needs to be bound for the conjuration to be called out, but are we sure......?

(Oh, share the pretty, of course! But it makes Dave sad when you say you don't need him. Or you don't need twenty copies of him. And you know the dangers involved with Dave's sadface.)

(I was going to say that I'll put aside the sewing the play the game tonight, but I know once I start I won't stop, and then all my cosplay plans will be in jeopardy. T_T)

[storme]

He certainly seems to *think* he's a Remnant. But right, he could just be hosting one. Or fused with one a la Nora.

Yeah, maybe--we know the Sacred Lands reached by the Seventh Path Remnant Ark are the same as the Elysion Remnant Ark (or connected, since Dave and the Generals re-emerge from there at the end of the game). But the ones beneath Undelwalt don't seem to be the same place, precisely--I wonder if it manifests as an actual Remnant, but underground?

Hmm! That makes sense, them being conjurations of the specific places. There's nothing definite that I recall about them *having* to be bound for conjurations, though that feels like it should be right. I wonder--when the Gae Bolg and Cyclops fight against the party, what's their status in terms of binding/control?

(I will, I will. I may cherry-pick the best Torgal one first, though, since I lack a Torgal picture of my own. And I have many many pictures of Dave's pretty that are *larger* than icons. But filling all my lj usericon slots with versions of Dave would be too much concentrated pretty for any one place. No, not the sadface! I can't resist the sadface!)

(This is essentially my problem, and why I *still* haven't started on the sewing. Um. Too many distractions!)

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

Perhaps it makes no difference to him, whether he is one or is hosting one that has the ultimate power. Because in the end it comes down to the same choice. :(

Elysion and Beneath Undelwalt is almost like.... Heaven and Hell? (Floating above and buried below.) Though they appear to be essentially the same thing. I suppose Elysion is named as such because the people thought that's the final resting place for souls. And the city under the floating Remnant was named after it, and then the Remnant became known as Sacred Lands. Comparing this with Undelwalt... that's almost obviously made to sound like Underworld. >_> There is definitely a connection between Undelwalt and the place beneath it. There's some parallel there that my words are failing to explain (it's Monday! I don't function on Mondays) but you know what I mean. So I'll guess Beneath Undelwalt is a Remnant. And GE has the power to create a teleporter that takes people in/out of that Remnant as he pleases, which is different from trying to get to Sacred Lands. I suppose that might mean he's bound Beneath Undelwalt to himself?

No idea at all about Gae Bolg and Cyclops... I mean, Dave definitely still had the eyepatch, because when Cyclops/Gae Bolg were defeated the light went back inside his eyepatch. So I'd guess the binding's still there. But he most definitely lost control of it...

(I need more variety of characters, myself. I want one or two Irina ones, actually. And some of Pagus's friends. XD Need more funny ones.)

(You need to start! Now! When your boyfriend isn't home to grumble at you for using the music room!)

[storme]

Which wasn't a choice at all, in the end. Poor Rush. :(

Yes, I see the parallel. And it would make sense for the God Emperor to bind BU to himself, yes. But there appears to be no Lord in Elysion (which is *pronounced* to sound like 'illusion', as another commentary of sorts on the concept)--and we know that the Remnant Elysion (as opposed to the Ark) was bound by Marion Marshall way back when (thus aligning her with Heaven vs the Imperator's Hell? Hmmmmmmm). Is it unbound now? Or is it bound by the Academy somehow?

Maybe the Conqueror took control of the Gae Bolg and Cyclops (either just those conjurations, or Kellendros and the Talisman's method for producing them) temporarily? I don't know, I can't figure out the mechanics of that battle at all (though it is very cool).

(I took a bunch of screenshots of Pagus's sidequest just yesterday, lots of Maddox and Sibal--want me to punt them to you when I get home?)

(But! Shiny game to distract me! Besides which, first I need to stare at the pattern I bought that tells me how the hell one makes a mandarin collar, anyway. :P)

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

*nodnodnod*

Stone no.24 - The Academy doesn't have the power to use Sacred Lands - yet. They seem to be able to get the Ark to operate for them every few months, and I'd guess since they can't even control the Ark properly, they most likely don't have control of Remnant Elysion. But, stone no.14... guess that implies that during luminesence a person might be able to Use a Remnant without binding it. At least that's the case for the Ark?

So what happened back then? Wagram dumped Glenys to woo Marion Marshall, and because after that he gained control of lots of Remnants I suppose Marion actually helped him. And then Marion actually made Tao Tie walk away, so that Kingdom of Glenys lost the war to Undelwalt. =/ (I guess love is blind) Maybe some time after that she realised Wagram's an asshole and so she bound herself to Elysion to stablise things?

(Yanno, I never took the time to read all the Academy Visistones. Big mistake! Interesting stuff there. Stone no.47 is particularly interesting.)

(I've got lots of them too, actually, just being a bit lazy about iconing. XD)

(Well if you run out of time making the costume, my Dave will be sad.)

[storme]

(Wow, those *are* interesting. Remnants can only be bound during luminescence? And Marshalls are not necessarily mitras? And.. wow, the Fallen as an early Rush/Conqueror type?)

Hmm. So Elysion isn't bound at all, I guess. And neither is the Ark, mostly. Amazing there's been no Collapse from the Ark...

And, yeah, the reading I got was that Wagram wooed Marion Marshall purely for her powers (though fairly convincingly, I assume) and then after that she bound Elysion--maybe on his prompting, since it's the original Remnant?

(I lack inspiration for text for icons, alas. My icons are pretty but not very funny. :( )

(I'm not quite that bad at procrastination! It'll be done in time. Though there may be some panic later on. :P)

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

I think it's saying that The Fallen is like, the anti-Remnant, rather than like Rush & Conqueror? (Which would explain why the Imperator wanted it sealed...)

I guess it makes sense. Otherwise someone would've gone to Dillmore to bind the Rubber Soul by now, but since the Collapse it's been left untouched. Maybe it's got a long Luminescence cycle so nobody could bind it yet.

Perhaps the Ark is one of those types that take forever to Collapse. Or every time someone from the Academy uses it, it counts as a "binding", sort of uses up its stored power?

Hey... Academy Visistone 44 [The Third Committee 4] Project SC: Usage of a giant Remnant for the military. What do you think SC could be? *headtilt*

(But you come up with fabulous puns!)

[storme]

Hmmmmm. Yes, I suppose that makes sense too. Man, he must be *pissed* at Rush's actions at the end of the game, huh.

I guess so. I assume Marshall's Blessing supercedes the 'must be luminescing'--or forces luminescence, actually, come to think of it. Hmmm. Interesting.

Maybe. I dunno. Or maybe its Collapse is one of the mental-effects-only type, so people don't notice so much? Or maybe its Collapse is to produce mitra-like people. :P

I thought that might be Ala Melvilana (since it is giant and Hermeien is able to access it for use) but that doesn't fit the letters. Not sure. There's nothing else that seems to fit, really.

I'm wondering about the 'Marshalls don't have to focus an object to use mystic arts' one--does this mean that everyone else has to focus (through an orb? or their weapon?) but Irina doesn't? That's not explored much, is it?

(Only spontaneously! If I could force these random funnies, I would! Alas, I cannot.)

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

Sounds like it. Marshall's magick/Marion Blessing can override all the regular Remnant rules, it looks like.

*snerk* There might be lots of little Rush running around Sacred Lands waiting to be adopted?

Yeah I can't think of anything either. And it's not Leithon's Sword since it's not giant and the letters don't fit. But something should fit it since they also have BA there which is obviously Bloody Alice, although they didn't include [bloody alice] in the words. So maybe the "SC" is also from a sidequest. *goes look through the list*

Absolutely no idea! It's not like we can unequip Irina to see if she can use mystic art without a weapon. I wonder if I can make Rush go into battle with nothing in his hands... and then if he can use mystic arts that way, then he's definitely a Marshall, ie he's definitely the biological son of Marina? Must go home and try.

(If I could draw, I'd totally make an icon of Dave tying Rush up plus the caption "binding a remnant")

[storme]

Weird. I want more rules, dammit!

Oh god. A herd of baby Rushes.

Let me know if you figure that out--all I can think is that it's an alternate name for something? Or a dropped side-quest, maybe.

Well, even if you make him go in without a weapon, you can't drop the orb that Pagus gives him, can you? So that doesn't help much, either.

(I am planning on binding for the ball, you realise. Which is going to make me giggle as well.)

(Also, OMG I have flag!cufflinks! I'll post a picture once I've dug out my camera cable.)

[yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com]

I wonder if Dave is a children person. If he is he might actually die of cute.

Not sure. But given the fact that one must have a weapon to use mystic arts, if Rush doesn't need a weapon, then it still proves... something? Gonna try it later. Eating and watching TV and going online at the same time right now. XD

(*giggle* Rush binds himself!)

(*goes to look!*)

[storme]

I wonder if Torgal would be similarly struck by the overcuteness.

Good luck! I'm going to stare at shirt patterns. :P