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Yukimura: You're whoring me out for a new roof?
Niou: And windows!

Renji is a family man.

Niou is soft and doughy in the centre. That is not a healthy state to be in. Dr. Yagyuu will have to give him a thorough check-up.

Selecting a time period for the next fic (also yakuza-universe) is proving difficult. I do have a time in mind that is perfect but have problems with working the background into the story without it being far too in-your-face. I mean, hands up anyone who knows the basics of 1) the Japan economy bubble in the 90's, 2) the Botaihou, and 3) the effect of the two on general syndicate operations? Of course, I write just what I want to write, but it needs to be readable to a certain extent, yanno? Ah, man. Sorry Renji, your story will just have to wait until I figure something out. Perhaps I'll keep it all vague.

Tenimyu going to Korea and Taiwan? Are they for real? Extremely WTF. >> (I can already imagine the Chinese fans crowding together at the airport to welcome them. Except Chinese fans are much scarier than Japanese fans. Oh dear.)

Date: 2008-05-27 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giving-ground.livejournal.com
But who is Yukimura being whored out to? 8)

Date: 2008-05-27 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
Didn't you know that the fitness instructor is also a part-time roofer?

Date: 2008-05-27 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giving-ground.livejournal.com
But surely then Yukimura wouldn't object to being, erm, whored out! I mean, he's already sort of trying to whore himself out to the fitness instructor...

Date: 2008-05-27 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
Yeah but I think he didn't realise the fitness instructor was going to be Niou's roofer.

*watches Yukimura go to destroy his own roof*

Date: 2008-05-27 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giving-ground.livejournal.com
Yukimura: Oh, oh no! A tree has fallen on my roof! How could this have happened!?!
Niou: ...Hey, Yukimura? You might wanna make the base of that tree look a bit less freshly-sawn somehow before you send off your insurance claim...

Date: 2008-05-27 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
TIMBERRRRR!

Yukimura really is desperate. He should just go and tell the fitness instructor. The UST is really killing Renji.

Date: 2008-05-27 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayezinha.livejournal.com
I may not know a thing about the period you're talking about, but you can link to something on maybe in your prose establish a bit about the situation.
I'm open to learn new stuff!! Or now that you pointed those themes, I can do a look out on my own. ::is a bookworm ^^;; ::

Still don't get much the in-your-face thing (what would be wrong with that?). Maybe I have thick skin. >.>;; You should write what you want in the terms you want. It would be a nice challenge to get it.


And I'm enjoying this convo like you don't have idea (well, and the porn one posted earlier ^^;;)
Edited Date: 2008-05-27 05:31 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-05-27 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
It's hard to explain, because everyone expects something different from their reading. I mean, right now I'm reading a book called Speed Tribe, and you could see it as fiction, because it is a book of short stories. But the author has written it into a more "documentary" style, so that you get the story, and then you get some explanation of the background (the changes in economy, suburb life vs urban life in Tokyo... etc, reasons why the kids in the stories became the way they were) - which is fine by me because the book is marketed not as fiction but as something slightly more informational, but ultimately that's not what I want to write.

I think if a reader wants to learn something, say, Japanese history, they're better off looking into textbooks than going to read Rurouni Kenshin. What you learn from reading Kenshin is a bonus - but if Watsuki had stated fact after fact in his manga, it would've turned off the readers. Also, I'm the sort of person who dislikes having to read footnotes or author's notes in order to understand the story. The fics I've written so far which has footnotes only included the notes for geekery, and the fics could still be understood without them. I think that's really important as far as entertainment value goes. There are stories which make you interested in a topic and you go in search for more, which is good, and then there are stories which make you go "WTH?" because you need to have background knowledge and the author hasn't managed to work that into the story in a subtle manner.

Right now I'm having problems letting the background show through in the story in a way that doesn't make it look like a documentary. =/

Date: 2008-05-27 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayezinha.livejournal.com
I see your point. There's a thin line between documentary, fiction based in real events and stuff. As I like your writing, I'll love to see all the process you're through and will like the final result (and I believe I'm not the only one) Your writing is challenging and ambitious in a sense and your hard work is all over there, as your plot lines.

With this I don't intend to label your fics for "intelligent" or "smart" people, the fun, the entertainment, the characters and the purpose is there, but obviously, they aren't made for a naive audience. Somebody did say "adult or mature"? O.o I'd like to say as as "serious" in a craft sense.

Hope you manage to get this story set, because you'll feel accomplished in your writing and that goes first.
(You shouldn't worry, really)

Date: 2008-05-27 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crystalusagi.livejournal.com
How are they scarier?

^______^ fic~ ♥

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