Tornado~!

Dec. 7th, 2006 04:38 pm
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The weather was a bit freaky today - it suddenly, and I mean SUDDENLY, rained this morning, very very heavily for a few minutes. It was kind of scary.

But a tornado in London? O_o

Okay, tornados actually do happen here, as do earthquakes, but they're always so tiny sometimes it's undetected. So this is like, beyond freaky.

On the subject of freak weather, how aware do you think you are on the subject of climate change? I don't know if it's much talked about in the US... somehow I feel it probably isn't really thought about. It's not just because they haven't signed up to the Kyoto Treaty/Protocol, but also because of other factors such as it not being on Bush's agenda and so no money is being invested into it. Here, we talk about climate change a lot. It's not just about the scientists saying that polar ice caps are melting and we'll all drown. But we talk about going "carbon neutral". Businesses and organisations try to minimise their "carbon footprint". Cars that use alternative energies can be recharged for free in London and are exempt from road tax. How many of those terms ring bells to those in other parts of the world?

An American engineer** coming over here would find us very weird, I think. He'd ask why we're trying to minimise car use and get everyone on buses, cycles, trains or ask them to walk. It's partly because we have limited space (we're trying to build roads around cities, not plan cities and their roads together) and so we can't cater for many more cars - unlike places in the US where if there's demand, they'd just build a new highway - but also that tackling climate change is high on the agenda. Ice-cap melting is real, the hole above Australia is real (and Australia is also real ;D), fossil fuels running out is also real. But on a more personal level, this sort of pollution triggers asthma, leads to acid rain and causes changes in weather so that summers are getting hotter and winters colder.

I'm actually not much of a green crusader myself, but, yeah. Been talking about it the other day, that's all.

Poll, because I'm procrastinating:

[Poll #883962]

** I say "American" very generally, like the average person out there. Somehow I think the flist would know a bit more than the average person. XD

Date: 2006-12-07 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digiguy-online.livejournal.com
wow must have been scary o___o

on a another note, i read tornado as TOMATO D:

Date: 2006-12-07 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
MASSIVE TOMATO SMASHING EVERYTHING IN KENSAL RISE.

....That's scarier than a tornado. XD;;;;

Date: 2006-12-07 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digiguy-online.livejournal.com
someone should photoshop a tomatoe into a photo of the tornado or kenzsal rise XD

on a completely unrelated not i may nto have enough money to give you for the DVD when you goto japan until after christmas when i get my second loan in but hopefully i will get the money soon >_

Date: 2006-12-07 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
*is afraid*

Oh, okay. Let me know later?

Date: 2006-12-07 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] digiguy-online.livejournal.com
i should be paid on saturday goto bank and monday and can paypal you cash much quicker

Date: 2006-12-07 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reddwarfer.livejournal.com
I must admit to listening to Al Gore for the last twelve years or so, so environmental issues are one of the things I'm concerned about.

Date: 2006-12-07 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
It's been said that the Bush Administration doesn't want to tackle climate change so much that they actively use ways to avoid talking about it and avoid raising people's interest in it.

Don't know what Gore's like, but I think I'd like him a lot better anyway. ^^

Date: 2006-12-07 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reddwarfer.livejournal.com
Al Gore is HUGE into enviromental causes. Just the other day he was on Oprah trying to show how we could reduce CO2 emissions so we don't cause any more damage to the ice caps. He has this movie and book called "An Inconvenient Truth" coming out and all the monies go to a bi-partisan environmental group. Bush is an idiot.

Date: 2006-12-07 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strawberryjoy.livejournal.com
In fairness I should add that I used to work in the Department's environment policy division (I think the report I commissioned back then was the first one we did on recycled paper). My personal commitment to being green, however, is suffering a tremendous bashing on account of the amount of time I now have to spend washing and drying plastic waste for recycling every weekend and the hour+ I spent waiting for a bus home last night.

We had a mildishly freaky storm here about an hour ago, one minute it was wind and hail, the next it was all sunny again. I don't think tornadoes have a 'tail end' like hurricanes though. Welcome to the weather of the 21st century I guess.

Date: 2006-12-07 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
Recycling takes a lot of extra effort. Every now and then in the news you can see someone getting fined for putting the wrong kind of recylable into the wrong bag, or something like that, as well. It just doesn't help promoting the concept at all.

The rain this morning was at around 7:30, so it's probably unrelated anyway. But... @_@

Date: 2006-12-07 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strawberryjoy.livejournal.com
It does. Cardiff don't make us separate paper from glass etc but they don't take carrier bags or heavy cardboard and you can't put food waste in the compost bins (which makes me wonder why they gave those to a block of flats in the first place).

There's just been a news report on the Welsh beeb about our little burst of weather: gales, flooding and trees down again. Seems to have been like this for weeks.

Date: 2006-12-07 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lechaco.livejournal.com
I think Katrina and the really turbulent hurricane season convinced some people in the States that climate change is happening. Also in Georgia when it snows more often, people are like "OMG CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!111oneone *freaks out*" Here in Toronto, we had a really warm winter last year and people were going "OMG GLOBAL WARMING". This year, it's getting really cold. T_T;;;

Whoa about the tornado. O_O I lived in a tornado area in the States so I know the signs but today in Toronto, the winds were really strong and while walking to school, the leaves were being thrown around in a circle and it was a little scary because I had to walk though that mini "funnel" T3T;;;

Date: 2006-12-07 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dvilish.livejournal.com
Hmmm....
Well i think that when fossil fuels
run out (its like 50 years or something)
everyone will be FORCED to used alternative
energy.
This is a good thing but....running out
of fossil fuels (particulary natural oil)
means things like Plastic and penacilin
will be hard/immpossible to make, although saying
that i have read a article about resin made
from corn so we may be ok for plastics but...
PENACILLIN.
thats something else for you to worry about :)

Date: 2006-12-08 12:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] elyndys.livejournal.com
I am moderately passionate about environmental causes, in that I hit my housemates with sticks until the recycle everything it's possible to recycle, try to save energy where I can, and buy Ecover cleaning products - but I still have a car (though I don't use it that much, and I'm fully in favour of high petrol prices for private motorists). I might sound like a filthy hippy, but it actually makes me hurt inside, the damage we're doing the Earth. If everyone cut back a little it would make such a difference, too - but so many people are too lazy to even make the slightest effort at all, which pisses me off beyond belief.

Al Gore has already been mentioned above, but I finally saw his Inconvenient Truth on the plane back from America and it really is very good. He doesn't take a Michael Moore route about it - rather, it's largely him giving a lecture, and ending on a nice message of hope. Because that's really what I think is most important - we can do something about it now, so people should be made to. And that includes Dubya, and people like Blair who like to look like they're doing something but are doing it in a really wimpy way that doesn't really achieve much.

...I only meant to write about 3 lines! XD Sorry for ranting on! But like I say, it is something I feel strongly about, even if I'm not some super eco-warrier.

Date: 2006-12-08 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-scorpio.livejournal.com
That's what makes Ken Livingstone different from the average politician - he listens to his policy advisors rather than his political advisors, and therefore have pushed through a lot of new policies regarding public transport, congestion charging and green energy use. He also allocates a lot of money on recycling and other green initiatives. A lot of people dislike him for the cost he's passing on to the taxpayers, but I think many years on, people will remember him for the good he's done.

Other politicians, though... if their advisors tell them "if you do this, you won't get re-elected", that's all it needs for them to stop at promoting a new policy. =_=

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